How the Muslim Brotherhood Is Winning in America (Clarion Prject) BY RYAN MAURO 10/20/13)
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Former FBI Agent John Guandolo: ´We´re 5 minutes into the 1st quarter
of the football game. The MB is winning 72-0.´
John Guandolo is the author of Raising a Jihadi Generation:
Understanding the Muslim Brotherhood Movement in America. He is also
the founder of UnderstandingTheThreat.com.
In 1996, Guandolo left the Marines to join the FBI’s Washington Field
Office, focusing mostly on narcotics investigations until 2000.
Shortly after the 9/11 attacks, he began an assignment to the
In 2006, Guandolo created and implemented the FBI’s first
Counterterrorism Training/Education Program focusing on the Muslim
Brotherhood. He was designated a “Subject Matter Expert” by the FBI
and his program was praised by the FBI Executive Assistant Director
in a brief to the Vice President’s National Security Staff.
The following is Clarion Project National Security Analyst Ryan
Mauro’s interview with John Guandolo:
Ryan Mauro: In your new book, you estimate that about 2,000 non-
profits in the U.S. are linked to the Muslim Brotherhood. How did you
come up with this estimate?
John Guandolo: First, we must begin by remembering that the Islamic
community in America continues to be led by the Muslim Brotherhood
(MB) here. The first national Islamic organization in the U.S., the
Muslim Students Association (MSA), was created by the Brotherhood in
When the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development was indicted
in November 2001, it was the largest Islamic charity in America, and
it was a MB/Hamas entity. Hamas is the MB in Palestine.
In 2004, the FBI raided the residence of a senior Hamas/MB operative,
Ismail Elbarasse, in Annandale, Virginia. In his home, the FBI
discovered the archives of the Muslim Brotherhood in America. Much of
the evidence, as you know, was entered into the U.S. v. HLF trial—the
largest terrorism-financing trial ever successfully prosecuted in
Of the many documents, records and other items that were discovered,
one was a recording of a senior MB leader—Zeid al-Noman—speaking to a
group of Brothers in Missouri in 1981. This tape and the
corresponding transcript were entered into evidence at the HLF trial
and stipulated to by the defense.
While there are numerous documents discovered that make my point,
this recorded discussion is, in my opinion, one of three pivotal
finds at the Elbarasse residence. Al-Noman tells the entire story of
how the Muslim Brotherhood came to America.
They first settled in Indiana, Michigan and Illinois, which explains
why the MB’s largest organization, the Islamic Society of North
America, is headquartered in Plainfield, Indiana. It explains why
Detroit and Dearborn are points for significant jihadi activity, and
why Chicago is the hub for Hamas in the U.S.
The MB set up “Usras” about 150 miles apart across the U.S. An Usra
consisted of a few men. Each Usra would grow and establish itself in
an area and as Muslims came from overseas, the Muslims already there
would incorporate them into what was already going on.
As these small pockets of activity grew, the MB did exactly what
their By-Laws said they would do. They established schools, mosques,
clinics, shelters and the like to expand their influence in the
community. By the early 1980s, nearly all of the Islamic
organizations in America were established by the MB. A powerful
In 1983, the MB established the Islamic Society of North America
(ISNA) to be the “nucleus” of their movement and, within the year,
about 100 “Islamic Societies” were established across the U.S. In
1991, the Brotherhood published an "Explanatory Memorandum"—the
strategic plan for North America. Following that, they approved and
published the “Implementation Manual” which put into action the
When you track the number of Islamic non-profits created against the
years in which they were created, there is a direct correlation
between the MB strategic actions and the creation of Islamic non-
Prior to 1983, very few Islamic non-profits were created except those
that were created by the MB. In 1983, there is a spike of about 100,
all of which are subsidiaries of ISNA. In 1992, after the publication
of the strategic plan and Implementation Manual, there is a large
spike in the creation of Islamic non-profits that never comes down
From that time to today, between 60 and 120 Islamic non-profits are
created each year. A large number of those organizations match the
organizations that the MB said it would create.
Here is an easy snapshop: There are over 2,100 Islamic Centers in the
U.S. today. From investigation and research, we know a large portion
of them are controlled by the MB. Through land ownership by the North
American Islamic Trust (NAIT)—the bank for the MB—or through known MB
leaders at these Centers, we know that a large percentage of the
Islamic Centers belong to MB.
Today, there are over 600 MSAs on nearly every college and university
campus. There are over 320 Islamic Societies and several hundred
chapters of the Muslim American Society (MAS), the Council on
American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Muslim Communities
Associations, Islamic Teaching Centers and professional organizations
like Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers and Association
of Muslim Social Scientists.
You see, “2,000” is an extremely conservative number.
Mauro: How much decentralization is there in the American Islamist
networks? For example, could a CAIR or MAS chapter leader be a non-
Islamist who agrees with the groups’ humanitarian and political work?
Guandolo: No. While there are people employed by these organizations
who have varying levels of enthusiasm for the MB movement, the
leadership of all of these organizations does not suffer from that
Colleagues of mine have worked/studied at various military
institutions, the National War College for instance. On several
occasions, officers from Islamic countries have remarked on the
significant and overtly-noticeable control the MB has here in the
U.S. over the Muslim community.
The State Department has a program where they pay for imams to fly
from overseas to the U.S. to meet with “Islamic leaders” here—almost
all of whom are MB. One imam from Indonesia who is not supportive of
the MB movement reported back to the U.S. Ambassador that this
program should be shut down because the U.S. government, in this
imam’s opinion, was paying for jihadis overseas to meet with jihadis
here in America that have “control” over the Islamic community.
In my professional opinion, this aspect of the threat cannot be
overstated. Prominent Muslim Dr. Zuhdi Jasser commented a few years
ago that the MB controlled the access to the Iftar dinners at the
White House and kept him out for several years.
Mauro: Is it possible that the Brotherhood-linked groups have evolved
and become moderate over time? Some of their officials have admitted
that Brotherhood ideologues set them up, but claim that they have
since gone their own way.
Guandolo: This is utter rubbish. There is not one shred of evidence
that they have slowed down their movement at all. All of the evidence
points to a rapid acceleration of their plans. The influence of
easily identifiable MB leaders inside our national security apparatus
is evidence enough of their massive influence.
Men like Sayyid Syeed, Muzammil Siddiqi, Ishan Bagby, Mohammed al-
Hanooti, Iqbal Unus, Ahmad Totonji, Hisham al-Talib, Yaqub Mirza and
the children of the first-generation MB leaders (e.g. Suhail Khan and
Zainab Alwani) are all heavily involved in the most prominent Islamic
organizations in North America.
The U.S. Muslim Brotherhood is more powerful today than it has ever
Mauro: There is a quote in your book that I took note of. It’s from
Islamist scholar Shamim Siddiqi in 1989. He said, “The revolutionary
aspect of Islam is rarely brought before the new converts.” Can you
explain what this means?
Guandolo: There is actually a lot of meat behind this. In short, he
explains that non-Muslims are brought to Islam without being told of
the obligation to wage jihad. They only need to be told enough to say
the Shahada with reverence and they become a Muslim. Over time, all
of the teachings are given to the individual.
The concept of “abrogation” or “progressive revelation” needs to be
understood. The prophet Mohammed had 23 years to bring the world of
Jahaliyyah (gross ignorance and unbelief) to Islam. For 13 years in
Mecca, he moved slowly. According to Islamic sources, in the first
six or seven years, only a handful of people converted to Islam.
In the entire first 13 years, approximately 200 people converted to
Islam. During this time, there was no mention of jihad. When Mohammed
made the trip (hijrah) to Medina, he became a political leader and a
military commander. We first see defensive jihad, then offensive
jihad for a limited number of reasons.
There is no disagreement among Islamic scholars that jihad is
obligatory for all Muslims until the entire world is subordinated to
Islamic law (sharia). 100% of published Islamic law says this.
So, when Shamim Siddiqi says the revolutionary aspect of Islam is not
explained to the new convert, he is simply restating doctrine.
Mauro: In June 2011, you gave a presentation about the MB to over 100
national security professionals. An FBI counterterrorism supervisor
said that he had never heard the information you provided. No one
else did either, except those that took your class.
Why are most national security personnel unaware?
Guandolo: The MB is doing their jobs well. The enemy in the war we
are fighting clearly state they are Muslims fighting jihad in the
Cause of Allah in order to impose sharia on the world. Period.
We need to take the enemy at their word and then begin assessing the
threat from there. This would necessarily require us to look at
sharia Law. If we did, we would see that Al-Qaeda is not “perverting”
sharia. They are accurately citing it.
We have MB figures advising our senior leaders that there isn’t
really any sharia that is written down. I always respond to the first
comment by asking the person to show me just one book of sharia Law
that says what he is telling me it says. So far, no takers.
This is because the mysterious “other version” of sharia does not
exist. Those that say sharia isn’t written down only need to go to
Amazon.com, type in “Islamic Law,” and order 10 or 20 books. Most are
in English by the way, because many of the largest Islamic countries
in the world were once under British rule and the legal language was
Having said all that, I am still amazed at how this enemy has truly
rendered our national security apparatus witless and unable to
identify and name our enemy twelve years after 9/11. All of this is
the intentional outcome of the MB’s 50+ year movement here.
Mauro: Do you believe the Islamists are capable of taking over the
U.S. or soon will be? If not, then what is the threat this network
Guandolo: It is clear they believe they have already won. They are
waiting for the game clock to run out. Part of the problem in getting
Americans to see the imminent threat is that they, like the U.S.
security services, are completely focused on the kinetic stuff—
bombings, shootings, etc. We need to worry about these, but it isn’t
how they intend to defeat us.
The MB strategic plan says they are waging “Civilization Jihad” to
destroy our civilization and that they will use our leaders to do
their work for them (“by their hands and the hands of the
believers”). When the U.S. wrote constitutions in Iraq and
Afghanistan imposing sharia and created two Islamic Republics; that
is civilization jihad by our hands.
When the MB launches a revolution, overthrows numerous governments
and kills scores of people, our government calls it a “freedom
movement” organized by “students on Twitter” and then proceeds to
financially and materially support the MB in Egypt, and then Al-
Qaeda/MB in Libya and Syria. That is “civilization jihad” by our
When the Hamas and MB entities in America tell the White House they
are “offended” over training about this movement and its doctrinal
basis in sharia law and that training is shut down and replaced by
training from MB organizations, that is “civilization jihad” by our
I could go on, but I think your readers will get the point. As I see
it, we’re five minutes into the first quarter of the football game.
The MB is out on the field and they are winning 72-0. We are on the
sidelines in baseball outfits wondering what inning it is.
The MB has a strategic plan and an operational plan to implement it.
They are well-organized, well-funded and disciplined. They have
thousands of organizations working daily to overthrow our
governmental system and erode our society of the basic founding
We cannot even speak about the threat for fear of offending our MB
and Hamas advisers. Who do you think is going to win this war if it
continues this way?
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